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Ghillie_C | Posted in The Archives on

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Has anyone tried this? I have been studying the instructions and I wonder if they are correct. For a start I think you would have to enlarge the pattern by 800% not 400%. Also I don’t understand where Mr. Mobius comes into the picture. This is a loop of fabric which you twist, (and then knot?) a Mobius strip is a twisted loop. That’s different.

It is unlike Threads to be wrong, but…

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  1. Evita_ | | #1

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    The instructions looked funny to me too ! As a matter of fact, it has happened quite a few times in the past that the instructions were wrong or incomplete. But Threads has been very good at posting corrections in the following issue.

    If you cannot wait until the next issue comes out, why not e-mail Threads directly ? They are also good in answering their readers.

    Evita

    1. Ghillie_C | | #2

      *The next issue is out now isn't it? but it will take weeks to reach me here in the UK.Does anyone know if they have printed a correction, before I make a fuss?Thanks,Ghillie

      1. Julia_Fletcher | | #3

        *I haven't seen the new issue either but I agree with you, Ghillie, on your two observations. Like you, I think you would have to enlarge the pattern by 800% to make a scarf that could actually be tied at all. And "Mobius" is definitely a misnomer: the scarf may be ingeniously twisted and tied but it is not a Mobius strip! Now perhaps we should see about designing a two-sided one that really is...Julia

        1. Ghillie_C | | #4

          *Hi Julia!A long, long time since we heard from you. So we agree, this scarf is NOT a Mobius strip. Good. We scientists must stick together. You could make this scarf into a Mobius strip by doing up the final joining seam the 'wrong' way round. I don't see how this would make it a better scarf, and it might make the back of your neck sore.Come along Threads people, can you hear us?Cheers,Ghillie

          1. Rita_Scanlan_ | | #5

            *Hello all! It's Rita from Threads. Our Web editor, Susan, has been at a trade show all week--or she would have responded to your discussion sooner. But instead of making you wait until she returned, I thought I'd jump in and tell you what I know about the Möbius scarf error. The following letter ran in the Letters section of the current issue (No. 92, p. 8):"Vionnet’s scarf clarified"I’m confused by some of the directions in your Quick to Make article in issue No. 91 on making “Vionnet’s Möbius Scarf” (pp. 92-93). The suggested enlargement of the schematic, in particular, doesn’t seem to be right. Can you help?—Anna Sundauer, Pittsburgh, Pa.Article editor Roxy White replies: You’re right; the art type in the drawing on p. 92 should have said to enlarge the scarf pattern 740% (or more if you want the bow longer than shown in the photo), and the grid should have run vertically on the schematic. It would have been helpful to mention that the scarf takes 21/2 yds. of 42- to 45-in.-wide fabric, the pattern includes 1/2-in. seam allowances, and its centerline is 19 in. long. We have heard from a lot of readers who love the scarves they’ve made, and my apologies for the oversights that made their first efforts more difficult than need be.----------------------------I hope these new instructions help clear up the error. And we are truly sorry again for the miscalculations. I hate to say that I'm not science savvy enough to tackle the Möbius strip questions. But maybe it's more accurate to say Vionnet was "inspired" by the strip.Thanks for your patience* Rita

          2. Ghillie_C | | #6

            *Thank you! now we are getting somewhere, but I am not going to let you off the hook just yet. 740% is cruelty to dumb readers. Not many photocopiers will do 740% easily, and it would be a big struggle to do with a pencil and paper. It may have been convenient for your layout, but not for anybody else.Now back to Mobius. Does anyone know if Vionnet was inspired by a Mobius strip? Did she say so? or is it a case of the author of the article, thinking of Mobius strips, quite incorrectly, and then lecturing us about them? I realise that Threads is not a scholarly journal but that is sloppy thinking and writing.Now I will be quiet and try out the scarf.Cheers,Ghillie

          3. MaryB26 | | #7

            *Thanks Rita. These instructions will speed up my construction time. I was studying the pattern last night, thinking about how much to enlarge, etc. I am glad that I waited until I checked these discussion boards today. I can't wait to get started on my new scarf:) MaryB in AZ

          4. Milly_Dalle | | #8

            *Hi all,I enlarged the pattern 800% (assumed the grid was 1" squares) and made a sample, it is easy and works well. However unless you are tall (I am 5'2"), it was too long, so I am making a shorter and narrower version. Don't bother with a photocopier, if you use pattern paper with grids, it is easy to copy.Re: the Mobius discussion, I am not a scientist, but the article does explain why the name was chosen; for the scarf to work you do have to twist it before joining the last seam.It really is easy to tie!Milly

          5. Milly_Dalle | | #9

            *Oops! I re-did my scarf without twisting it before the last seam and it's fine (actually better!) so please disregard the second part of my previous message. (Another case of the fingers being faster than the brain!)Happy sewing,Milly

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