I did get a short preview of the Innovis 4000d yesterday-to die for!!! I also checked out the Babylock Ellegante–but the babylock does not have top bobbin threading and that looks like something wonderful – to not have to remove your hoop when you have to rethread a bobbin–had a Disney design sewed for me because my granddaughter was with me-I am amazed at how beautifully it sews out–I did forget to ask though – although I have 3 granddaughters that are all in to Disney Princess , I thought I read somewhere that you can get this machine without the Disney characters–anyone know?? I was given a price of $4800, I think it was – this is the floor model that they have used for about a month–includes the continuous hoop for border designs and the new upgrade has already been installed (value of about $299) she says. Otherwise, I would pay $4500 without upgrade and hoop – which, I guess means I’m getting the hoop as an added bonus. Is this good? Babylock was the same price but the upgrade would need to be installed and no continuous hoop–does anyone have this hoop – would I really use it?