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   starzoe | Mar 13, 2009 07:11pm | #1

   More information please - what is the source of the hermosa shirt pattern? If it is a printed pattern a la Burda, the usual procedure is to trace the pattern onto other paper (pellon, etc.) and then add the seam allowance to that which becomes your working pattern.

   Edited 3/13/2009 12:12 pm ET by starzoe

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   velita | Mar 13, 2009 11:35pm | #2

   its not a burda but a german pattern , no seam allowances.  the space between the top right corner and the top left point has 1/8 in.  there needs to be at least 3/4 in to get  a seam allowance for both sides.   if i had a copy  scanner i would scan it .  its a scurved piece like a U where the tops are only 1/8 in apart.  the web site where i purchased it is    sewzannesfabrics  or type in hermosa shirt pattern.

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   starzoe | Mar 14, 2009 01:45am | #3

   I guess you mean that there is not enough space on the paper to draw in your seam allowance. With these patterns you are advised (in fact the web site tells you) to use tracing paper to transfer the pattern. Seeing that this is the largest size, why don't you cut out that piece of the pattern and lay it on a larger piece of paper and trace around it, or just tape extra paper in the corners where you need it.As I mentioned before, these patterns without seam allowances are expected to be traced onto other paper and then the seam allowance added to that, in fact with a multi-size pattern where you want to save the pattern you will have to trace.

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   velita | Mar 14, 2009 03:43am | #4

   the one side of the pattern touchs the other side leaving no room for seam allowances.  its hrd to explain, the upper right side is 1/8 " away from the upper left side.     l l   this is all the distance there is between the sewing lines. the seamm allowances ae 3/8 in, therefore needing     l             l   at least this much space between sewing lines.  if you have access to the pattern look at the top of pattern piece no 4.  it is a hook shaped piece where the top and bottem are almost on top of each other.  

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   starzoe | Mar 14, 2009 03:51am | #5

   Do you mean the pattern pieces are almost touching each other on the paper? If that is the case you can trace the pieces in question onto another piece of paper, can't you? And then you can draw the seam allowances onto the tracing and use that for your layout. Maybe I am not understanding you.Have you not worked with this type of pattern before?

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   velita | Mar 14, 2009 03:59am | #6

   yes i have done the smaller size.  this is just 1 pattern piece shaped like an oval, for lack of better term,  with the  very top cut off.  at the top where the opening is the sewing lines are only 1/8 " apart.  this isnt 2 pieces close together.    take the letter  J  and draw it bringing  the tail all the way  to the top slanting it to the begining of the letter.  this is the shape of this pattern piece

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   starzoe | Mar 14, 2009 06:54am | #7

   I'm sorry, but I still do not understand your problem. Perhaps someone else here will have a better grasp of the situation.

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   velita | Mar 14, 2009 03:47pm | #10

   draw a donut shape     cut thru or split the  circle just 1 side, now try to add a seam allowance in the split .   remember this is 1 pattern piece and its because of the shape  (elongated J )  the starting point and finishing point are 1/8 " apart.  try and find someone who hads this pattern vbisual is the only way to see it

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   ThreadKoe | Mar 14, 2009 07:39pm | #11

   This pattern piece is based on ruffle cut from a circle. The majority of the piece is bias, and will not fray, so minimal seam allowance is required,(which you would end up cutting away) and you can probably steal from the actual pattern piece. There will be a lot of stretch and give in the piece. Draw or chalk the seam line on your fabric to pin by and sew it in place. Use as much seam allowance as you can, and ease stretch on into place. You will see. Try a muslin fit if you can to see what I mean. Cathy

   Edited 3/14/2009 12:41 pm ET by ThreadKoe

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   velita | Mar 14, 2009 08:01pm | #12

   i am assuming you have seen this pattern   piece  #4.  when i got to the tip i backed it down 2 sizes giving me the allowance i needed. i have gotten it all together and that worked fine. i was just wondering if there was a different route to go by.  the first woman  just couldnt understand what i was getting at and i couldnt explain any better.  the largest size is the only one with this problem .  i did get an answer back  from a woman at the banberryplace.com site.  she  sells the pattern and looked at it  and saw right away what i was saying.  she has emailed the designer and will get back to me.     thanks

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   ThreadKoe | Mar 14, 2009 08:54pm | #13

   I have not seen this particular pattern, but looked at the link. I have worked with a similar pattern piece, and designed one like it before, and ran into a similar problem. I had miscalculated on the allowances for where the point was. I ended up having plenty of fabric when I fudged it. Cathy

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   KharminJ | Mar 15, 2009 09:13am | #15

   Dear Velita ~ Welcome! Seeing the pattern pieceshttp://www.farbenmix.de/anleitungen/englisch/HERMOSA.pdf and re-reading your original question, I now *get it*. But I sure understand your frustration, too! I'm glad you got it figured out, and I hope you'll share the designer's response in this thread. It's a darling shirt - can you post photos of your finished piece? We all love to see results, too!

   Bright Blessings!

   Kharmin

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   velita | Mar 15, 2009 03:10pm | #16

   unfortunately i dont have a scanner so i wont be able to send pictures.   there is a skirt that goes with it , its a breeze to make. same concept. now you know why i said  a person has to see the pattern piece.  i will send along the designers comments.  thanks

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    velita | Mar 17, 2009 02:32am | #17

    the designer suggested adding a little more to the outside seams and fudging on the inside ones. i just made the tip portion 2 sizes smaller and it worked fine.  thanks all.

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    KharminJ | Mar 17, 2009 05:43am | #18

    Sounds like either solution is a good one. I do hope they make a note in future printings of the pattern!

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   Palady | Mar 14, 2009 07:16am | #8

   http://ideazinbloom.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=102

   http://www.farbenmix.de/anleitungen/englisch/HERMOSA.pdf

   Might you be referring to the patterns mentioned on either of the URL's?  Possibly the second?

   Going through it quickly, I may have missed a size.

   nepa

   ETA - Hhmm, maybe not since I now realize you specified it being a German pattern.  The URL's were from a Google search.

    

    

    

   Edited 3/14/2009 12:21 am ET by Palady

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   velita | Mar 14, 2009 03:42pm | #9

   yes its from the second site. unless you actually  have the pattern and can visually see the problem its hard to explain.  if i could draw on the screen it would be better. the pattern piece curves around and the tail is1/8 " from the edge  making it impossible to add a seam allowance.   its 1 pattern piece.  tale a donut shape  slit thru 1 side now try to add a seam allowance in that slit. thats the best i can do .

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   Palady | Mar 15, 2009 03:23am | #14

   O.K., MO here is you're going to need more material and you'll have to use a lay out different from the flat one shown to factor in your seam allowances.

   If you use the Recommended Time Saver approach, the square sizes would need to be larger.

   nepa